If you’re a reconstructionist, do you think physical location has an impact on your relationship with your gods? Do you think being physically closer to their initial cult sites makes your connection to them stronger?
I speak only as a semi-recon. My research methodology tends…
I love how positive you are about it! Very glass-half-full.
With all reconstruction, there’s a lot that we just can’t know, but with UPG and community practice, maybe we can rediscover that which has been lost.
I think you’re right as well about the proximity only being so influential. Do you think that it’s more psychosomatic than not (ie feeling the presence of Persephone more at Eleusis than in Brooklyn)?
That’s a good question, it could also be a question of how close you are with Persephone too. I like to believe that the Gods understand that we don’t live in ancient times anymore.
I wonder if it’s psychosomatic because, by defining ourselves as reconstructionists, we are attempting to literally recreate something which has been lost. By being in a place where our spiritual ancestors honored and worshipped the gods, it helps us slip into a mindset of being closer to the gods ourselves. I think it might be more about us than Them.
That’s a good point actually, I didn’t think about it that way.
As far as upg goes, I’ve noticed that there are some things people who work with some Gods have in common. For example I’ve noticed from some people who worship Hermes, that he really likes cinnamon. In fact one woman I speak to on another forum, who also worships Hermes, had mentioned that he likes clove cigs. Cinnamon and cloves are both sweet spices, so maybe Hermes likes sweet spices?
My own UPG is also that he likes cinnamon, but also cinnamon sugar. Also that he has an insatiable sweet tooth. UPG is lovely like that, isn’t it? For me, it makes me feel like I’m more a part of a community rather than one little person alone in a big sea.
UPG is lovely like that! It’s wonderful connecting with people who understand. At first I was very hesitant about opening a tumblr account but now I’m very happy I did.
I wonder if other people who worship Hermes have also has similar experiences? I can definitely see him with an instiable sweet tooth, he needs all that sugar! My upg with him is that he really likes coins. It
Coins certainly so as well. I like to give him coins from wherever I’ve been, and if I find a random foreign coin I give them as well.
I was also hesitant to open a tumblr because of some of the drama I’d seen and heard of, but I’m glad I did too. ^__^ It’s been really beautiful to talk to other people who know Him. <3
In my experience, He snaps up every shiny penny and american gold dollar coin I bring into the house xD Also mocha coffee - Hermes and Thoth go through like an entire bin of black silk coffee in a week between them…
And as far as the travelling thing goes, I recently came back from a trip to Greece (and what felt like every archaeological site in southern greece/crete), and I felt Their presence on an entirely new level. It’s one thing to interact with Athena at my own personal shrine, quite another when you’re standing before Her olive tree on the Athenian Acropolis! Back when I was Catholic I was able to visit the Vatican as well, and the two experiences were very similiar in terms of how much more personal the Divine felt when I was standing on its home turf, so to speak. Hermes popped up in every airport and harbor we traveled through like an excited tour guide :)
What a beautiful experience! Do you think it was because the place is a place of power for the deities themselves, or do you think it’s because of the pilgrimage aspect? Or something else?
I’d say its a combination of both. Partly yeah, the fact that I got to make a pilgrimage after studying Classics for four years made it particularly special (and the fact that I was the only pagan in the group, so every site had another layer of significance for me), but I also think the Greek deities have a tie to the land that those of us who live outside Greece can’t really appreciate. Even now, despite most of the modern Greeks not believing in the old gods like the ancients did, the gods are still EVERYWHERE there - tons of places are named after them, Hermes’ face is on their mail boxes, the Athenian metro lines are named after Plato and Thucydides, and so on. We went to the threshold crack to the underworld in Eleusis, and we could see flowers, pomegranates and coins that modern visitors still leave there as offerings! Their temples may be in ruins, but the Theoi are very much still present in Their ancestral land - I would imagine that the same goes for the Norse and Kemetic deities as well. If any of you have read American Gods by Neil Gaiman, I think he captures the idea best that America is a “land without gods”, we just don’t have that tie that comes with living in the same land as our deities and understanding them through experiencing on a daily, primal basis the same land and environment that shaped us both.
I have noticed a ridiculous amount of god-mentioning here in Norway. A line of construction tools called Jotun, a shipping carrier called Freya, etc. I read recently as well that no Norwegian believes in trolls, but all Norwegians know they exist. (Not quite the same thing.)
I have a slight issue with American Gods, but I can appreciate the comparison. It feels… strange to me, on so many levels, and I’ve seen others who’ve hated on it in more vicious terms.
Congratulations on being able to do such a journey as well. I can’t imagine how powerful an experience that must have been, especially for someone of our mutual inclinations.
Well mistake me if I’m wrong but the sites were chosen for a reason. Sort of like Shinto temples they usually are located near a spring, river, lake, cave…etc…etc as well as several other factors are put into making them like them facing the east and what not so it doesn’t surprise me if someone feels closer to the gods at those sites. Maybe daemons are there who can help us better communicate with the gods.